2012 Racist Liar of the Year

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Get a load of this from this morning's Australian

Senator's view on Israel

• From:The Australian 
• January 10, 2013 12:00AM

Your editorial ("A state of delusion delays a real Palestinian solution", 7/1) labels me as an "anti-Israel extremist". This is an appalling allegation which I reject. I support a two-state solution, which is the policy of the Australian Greens. This includes Israel's right to exist in peace.

Israel is the military and economic power in the region. I am concerned about the brutal treatment of Palestinian people by the right-wing Netanyahu Likud government. Achieving justice for Palestinians is critical to achieving peace. One of the reasons I am a member of the Greens is because the party has a proud track record of opposing human rights abuses, racism and bigotry.

Senator Lee Rhiannon, Surry Hills, NSW

Rhiannon's  latest public demonstration of her commitment to Israel's right to exist in peace was to be  key speaker at Sydney's pro-Hamas rally in the immediate wake of Operation Pillar of Cloud to "condemn Israel's most recent aggression against the Gaza Strip".

Another speaker was the Mufti of Australia.   He would have been already  making his travel arrangements and rehearsing his speeches to the  stones and the trees. .

Rhiannon supports a two state solution and peace?

Orwell once remarked on how rich the language is in expressing incredulity. He confined himself to "pull the other one" , "what a load of cobblers".and so on. He was a gentleman you see. 

Me not so much. Rhiannon and the Greens stand in relation to the truth approximately where a pack of  rapists on a private bus stand in relation to their victim.

 She is the spokesperson for her party on Israel.

Given her and her party's complete disregard for the plight and rights of women living under the jackboot of Islamist regimes, including Gaza,, when they formulate their Middle East policies, this metaphor, as crude as it is, regretably is more apt than you would like.,   

Let's be very clear about this. 

Rhiannon is a passionate supporter of BDS which has as its stated  objective the destruction of Israel.. She has never declared against the only overt genocidal racism in the Middle East. That displayed by Hamas, Fatah, Iran and the rest of the grievance ridden Islamist Middle East. 

She saves all of her vitriol for Israel with which she is obsessed.  

When she talks about a two state solution she means an Israel confined to the 1949 armistice lines ( the "Auschwitz Borders" )and the 800 000 Jews (she means Jews not Israelis) who live beyond those lines ethnically cleansed from their homeland. Including those in Jerusalem. She means an Israel that has had the spurious and glib Muslim "right of return" forced on it and therefore does not even have sovereignty over her own borders.

She means a rump state. She means 1938 Czechoslovakia post-Nazi sell out. She means the removal of any shred of Jewish autonomy from the Middle East and with it all of their human rights  and all of those who shelter under their tiny republic. The only place that provides these rights.

 She means giving Hamas,Fatah Iran and all the rest what they want. Or trying. 

She means war.

What else could she mean?

She certainly does not mean an end to the continuous threats, primitive violence, genocidal hatred, vicious racist propaganda, war crimes and sheer bloody minded murderous rejection of the State of Israel from the men who are the real cause of this self imposed horror.

If this sort of vile lying by a politician particularly disgusts you then you know what you must do. Call her on it. You can be certain the media won't. 

Rhiannon is the spokesperson for the Greens on Israel. Did I mention that?

Support the Greens? How could you even think it. It will be worth voting for the pleasure of preferencing them last. 

cross posted  Israel Thrives

Gaza War Crime Count 2012

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Month	Shin Bet Rocket and Mortar Count	Shin Bet Count of Attacks
January	16	14
February	37	28
March*	208	156
April**	8	8
May	6	6
June	218	94
July	27	19
August	24	16
September	25	25
October	171	92
November***	1814	633
December	2	1
Total	2556	1092

Source    Elder of Ziyon/Shin Bet

Each of those rockets and mortars was fired indiscriminately at a civilian population with the intention of causing as much death and injury as possible. Every one was fired from under the cover of another civilian population with the intention of using casualties from any provoked response as war propaganda to incite racist genocidal hatred in Gaza and abroad.

War Crime Count

     

Hamas and allies (including Fatah)                                                                           5112

IDF                                                                                                                            Zero

Poem ---- elinor

 אלינור

She married him—a recent Russian immigrant—

So they could live in Israel. Her life was there.

He married her

So she would take him to the States.

They divorced.

She remarried—an American, a committed Zionist and a

Frankly unpleasant man. They had a son, then they divorced.

Her ex-husband left the country. She followed

Or lose her son.

And now she lives in Cincinnati

Stop the racism. Before it is too late

geoffff

Pat Condell says it as well as anyone in the world.

This is a war against a racist violent imperialism as vicious and rampant not seen since  the Nazi era to which it bears a striking resemblance.  Australians are fighting and dying in this war against barely one strand of this horrible thing. Many more will no matter what happens in Afghanistan.

I do not define the enemy as "Islam" as Condell and others do. This is hardly liberal squeamishness on my part.   All religions have belligerent bits that can be abused by the ideologues of the day. Take  pre reformation Christianity.

The enemy is Islamism. In all its forms. An ideology.

Or if you prefer "pre-reformation Islam".  In all its forms. A terrible enemy of the peoples of the world and especially the Muslims. .In its most extreme forms as bad as the Nazis and there are a lot of extreme forms.

Why on earth would we act to undermine the Israelis who are on the front line of another front?

Where's the sense in that?  Who or what exactly is this Government trying to appease?

Update

Comments from Israel Thrives

1. Shirl in OzJanuary 3, 2013 6:24 PM

   Geoff
   
   A political ideology masquerading as a religion

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2. 
   Randall KohnJanuary 3, 2013 10:50 PM

   "pre-reformation Islam" is the best description I've encountered yet. It has the potential of reaching anyone who's left of the hard right who still has an open mind.

   
   

   Mike L.January 4, 2013 10:39 AM

   I agree with you, Geoffff.

   
   

   The problem is not Islam, per se, but political Islam or Islamism.

   
   

   If western Christians were attempting to create theocracies then they'd be the problem, as well. Fortunately that's not what they are up to and even the most devout American Evangelicals do not wish to replace the Constitution of the United States with the New Testament.

   
   

   Shirlee argues that Islam is a political ideology masquerading as a religion. The thing of it is, prior to the Enlightenment all religions were political ideologies for the simple reason that there was no distinct separation of church and state. All that there was was the religion itself, upon which the state and the politics were grounded.

   
   

   The same is true of Islam to the extent that it refuses to accept the separation of church and state.

   
   

   Most American Muslims do, in fact, accept that separation and consequently do not represent a threat to American Jews.

   
   

   The problem with Islam in the Middle East, and increasingly in Europe, is that they refuse that separation and thereby ground their political cultures within Sharia, which is precisely what is happening in Egypt and throughout the Arab Spring countries.

   
   

   The Obama administration is advancing political Islam and thus undermining the separation of church and state throughout the Middle East.

   
   

   This is hysterically ironic for a president of the United States who once taught Constitutional law, but it clearly shows us that this president believes more in the multicultural ideal than universal human rights.

   
   

   That's where the tension lies.

   
   

   Right at the crux between the two.

   
   

   
   

   3. Shirl in OzJanuary 4, 2013 3:47 PM

      Mike
      
      You are wrong very wrong. It's Islam full stop.
      
      Read the Hadith. Read the Reliance of the Traveller which is the Bible of Muslims. All 336pages
      
      www.shafiifiqh.com/maktabah/relianceoftraveller.pdf

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   4. 
      CazJanuary 4, 2013 6:25 PM

      What squeamish hair-splitting projection!
      
      It's Islam, stupid!
      
      What is this thing "political Islam", that can be separated from Islam the religion? What's this projecting of a Western-Democratic construct - separation of church and state - onto a lost in ancient-times Middle Eastern religion, which has banned revision to it's own texts for hundreds of years?
      
      That's one wild and whacky premise for analysis, a major misappropriation of the analytical prism.
      
      Islam can and should only be discussed on it's own terms, not from the vantage point of white, middle class, capitalist democracies - of which Islam could not be more divorced if it tried.
      
      

      
      

      Mike L.January 5, 2013 10:24 PM

      Neither Geoffff or myself are arguing that Islam is not anti-Semitic in doctrine.
      
      Of course, it is.
      
      
      

      geoffff continues
      (where is that damn ape)

      
      

      OK. I put these upfront.  I'll post them on Mike's blog as well.  One of the most frustrating and dangerous things about this war is that no one can agree on who is the enemy. Therefore there is no agreement on how to fight the war or even if there is a war.. The enemy of course is playing that for all it is worth.

      
      

      The rulers and gang chiefs who ride this ideology are not stupid men. They are mostly psychopaths which is both their strength and weakness and they have very keen tactical intelligences.  That combined with ruthlessness and complete freedom from concepts such as the truth means they frequently outflank the West..

      
      

      This is why they might win.

      
      

      Their sheer inability to grasp ordinary human empathetic emotion and motivation and to accept physical reality always brings them down in the end usually to be replaced by another psychopath. In the meantime the human damage they do can be beyond the reach of the language.

      
      

      I agree with the British Freedom Party guy. They could bring down everything. Civilisations do come to an end.   

      
      

      You do not have to be that old to see how far the West has retreated and so quickly especially in the last thirty or so years. Since the Islamic Revolution.   
      
      Further Update
      
      

      
      
      On the question of what is the enemy.
      
       "Islam", the religion,  with its genocidal antisemitism and other alarming features such as  homosexual homicide , female subjugation,  infidel beheading, God made law and global imperialism
      
      Or
      
      "Political Islam" or "Islamism", the ideology that captures these features and turn them into a means of oppression, control and violent aggression
      
      Verdict
      
      Definitely Islamism or Political Islam 
      if you like: pre-Reformation Islam
      pre-Enlightenment Islam 
      
      It is a great mistake to attack a religion no matter how vile are some of the passages at least in the context of this struggle. We are not theologians. Or at least I'm not.  
      
      Mike is right that there are many Muslims who just want to get on with their lives and practice their religion in peace. In the West there is no reason why that can not be a religion of peace.
      
      In fact we should insist on it. 
      
      Of course the religion is problematic but this depends on how it is taught and presented. In this part of the world there are many Muslims who have no stake in the Middle East . A past President of Indonesia was an eminent Muslim cleric who turned out to be an admirer and friend of Israel.  Israel has friends in the Muslim world and there are Muslim countries that have accepted her. Right now Jordanian and Israeli special forces are reportedly carrying out coordinated  secret operations on the Syrian side of the borders against Assad special forces.
      
      How the religion is presented. The prophet mentioned  most after Mohammed in the Koran is Moses. Far more than Jesus. Jesus scores only about 15 mentions while Moses is up around the 100 mark. There is even a passage about Moses leading his people to "their sacred land"
      
      The Koran is not alone in having its bracing parts. The Christian Bible is notorious as we   know which means Christians would certainly be a problem if we lost the Enlightenment  This is the reason antisemitism is suddenly back in fashion in certain parts of the Protestant clergy and why they have attached themselves so closely to Islamic clerics and the Palestinian cause..
      
      They are hoping for a seat at the top table once the secular state has been swept aside and the boys in the hoods are calling the shots once again. I bet they wank themselves silly over that dream. Takes the heat off the kids I suppose.
      
      And dare I mention it? There are some pretty torrid pieces in the Hebrew Bible as well. Quite a bit in there that you might find challenging as a modern woman. As I recall the rules for dealing with a man who lies with a man as a woman do not leave much room for discussion either. God made himself very clear on that one. That hasn't stopped Tel Aviv having Mardi Gras parades and gay bars and Israel being a sanctuary for Palestinian homosexuals. These days the only way a Jewish gay anywhere could get stoned to death is if it was self inflicted.
      
      Not that anything in Jewish law or tradition will be of any significance if we were to lose the Enlightenment.. Jewish anything really. Speaking strictly for myself, in a world governed by sharia and composed of competing  nuclear armed Islamic states and gangs at perpetual war and revolution, I would very much prefer to be dead..    
      
      Right now there are respectable Muslim clergy who do not see their religion the same way as the lunatics in Tehran and Gaza. They are perhaps envisaging a  post-Enlightenment Islam.They should not be discouraged. That is one way out of this mess.
      
      
      Further Comments
      Israel Thrives
      
      (in particular note comments by ziontruth in Israel)

British Freedom Party (Follow the Link)

Thoughtlines of Chairman Carr

geoffff

The Australian Foreign Minister has every right to be on the steps of the Mosque in Lakemba. No doubt all Australian politicians find themselves on the steps of all sorts of places at one time or another. It would be an odd sort of democracy if they did not.

But when he changes foreign policy to accommodate an ideology that is extremist, violent and driven by naked primitive religious tribalism to any degree then there is something going on in the state of Australia that should concern us all.

It seems that Bob Carr worries a lot about what he says on the steps of the Lakemba Mosque. This from an interview with George Negus on 26 October 2012.

George Negus: Do you think that this [ an Eid hudna in Syria] would have happened without the fact that this is a religious holiday, Eid?

Bob Carr: I think it was probably a powerful argument, and Envoy Brahami was well equipped to press that point, given his knowledge of the Arab world. But I hope when I'm standing on the steps of Lakemba Mosque tomorrow representing the Australian government at the big celebration of Eid, I'll have it confirmed that all the forces in Syria have signed off on this ceasefire. And of course there is the hope that if you get a ceasefire for four days of holiday, it could grow into something else. What we need in Syria is the implementation of a ceasefire and a discussion about political transition involving the different forces: a transition towards a democratic and plural Syria.


Well he certainly wasn't able to say that. No wonder he was lost for words. 

So what did he say?

This from his own site.

This morning I had the pleasure of speaking at the Eid al-Adha celebration at Lakemba Mosque.

I said that this celebration is a reminder of the important role of Islam in the lives of many Australians.

Australia is home to nearly half a million Muslims and Islam is our country’s third largest religion (behind Christianity and Buddhism).

Australian Muslims contribute strongly to Australian society.

I referred to my first speech as a Senator in March where I quoted the King of Jordan, King Abdullah II. In 2004 he said: “Let us avert the clash of civilisations, and help the overlap of cultures. Let us partner for peace.”

I have worked hard to promote this since becoming Minister for Foreign Affairs.

The Australian Government funds a multitude of inter-faith, cultural overlap and community development activities overseas, for example:

• in the Philippines, our Strengthening Grassroots Interfaith Dialogue and Understanding small grants program supports peace-building activities by local community groups and NGOs;
• the Indonesia BRIDGE program (Building Relations through Intercultural Dialogue and Growing Engagement) supports school partnerships between Australia and Indonesia;
• Australia is contributing funding towards an “Australia Arab Women’s Dialogue” to be held across Australia in March 2013;
• through the Council for Australia-Arab Relations, we have provided 2,867 Australian high schools with a resource kit called ‘Arab Gateways’; and
• in 2004, Australia and Indonesia established the Regional Interfaith Dialogue (RID).

I also spoke of the conflict in Syria, the appalling dimensions of this crisis and the serious risk it poses to stability in the region – it is already spilling over its borders, to Turkey and more recently to Lebanon.

Australia strongly supports the UNSC’s call for all parties – and in particular the Syrian authorities – to cooperate fully with the UN and others on the provision of humanitarian assistance.

Australia has committed over $24 million in aid making us the third-largest national humanitarian donor.

It is important to emphasise that Australia has long-standing links with the Arab world, especially in trade and education:

• trade $13.4 billion in 2011; and
• over 18,000 students from Middle East studying in Australia in 2011.

Our formal links with regional organisations are growing:

• I participated in the second Australia- Gulf Cooperation Council dialogue in New York last month;
• we have a formal dialogue with the Arab League;
• we have a framework of cooperation with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation;
• we have senior officials talks with the Arab League, the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), Egypt, Jordan, Tunisia, and Iraq; and
• we have agreed to hold these talks with Libya, Oman, Algeria and Morocco.

We are also supporting the democratic transition of Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Iraq.

It is these links that we must remind ourselves of in the face of the efforts of extremist minorities to incite violence or create gaps between cultures.

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What is remarkable about this press release? So remarkable that I have reproduced it in full.  Not what it says but what it does not say. Note the date. 26 October 2012..

Israel was already under increased attack from missiles and mortars fired at its civilian populations from under the cover of the civilian population of Gaza and barely a fortnight before Pillar of Cloud was forced on the Israelis in self defence..

These attacks are vile terrorist war crimes by any definition and we were led to believe by the standards of this Government. Certainly they say so in front of any Jewish audience and especially for the Jewish press. Always. 

But in front of this audience not a word. Look again. Israel is not even mentioned at all let alone Gaza.  As if his audience had no interest in the subject at all.

We know now this press release is a lie.  Israel was mentioned that day. Of this there can be no reasonable  doubt. It's just that Bob Carr didn't want his "thoughtlines" on record at the time. In case the rest of us found out.

Including very likely the Prime Minister.

From the Steps of the Mosque in Lakemba

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Good to see there has been a response from the Australian Jewish communal leadership to the presence of the Australian Muslim leadership in Gaza doing a song and dance routine with the Nazi inspired violent religious lunatics and genocidal haters of all things not them but especially the Jews and who currently oppress the population of Gaza and far far beyond.

Here it is via J-Wire  

Executive Director of the Australia/Israel and Jewish Affairs Council Dr Colin Rubenstein told J-Wire: “If the Arabic media reports accurately reflect the tone and intent of their visit, the recent  Australian Muslim delegation to meet HAMAS in Gaza led by Australian Mufti Dr. Ibrahim Abu Muhammad, is a cause for serious concern.

It is incumbent upon responsible Australian leaders and officials to stress to the  delegation members that religious or community leaders offering open support for HAMAS profoundly contradicts the core values of Australian  multiculturalism, such as tolerance, non-violence, mutual respect and the rule of law.

HAMAS is a  terrorist organization, subject to Australian financial sanctions, which is engaged in terrorism and war crimes, is rife with extreme antisemitism, and is dedicated, in word and deed, to the violent destruction of a friendly State.  It is incomprehensible that any one with pretensions of moral authority would  hold up HAMAS-led Gaza as a model from which Australians can learn.

Australian leaders should also inquire of the delegation whether they conveyed to Gaza’s rulers the commitment of the Australian government and people to Israel’s right to live in peace and security and to a negotiated two-state outcome. Further, the delegation must be asked whether they made clear to HAMAS the necessity to emulate  Australian rejection of antisemitism and  all other forms of intolerance and terrorism, and if not, why not.

Executive Director of The Executive Council of Australian Jewry Peter Wertheim added: “Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed has said that the purpose of his mission is to learn from Gaza about how to defend his rights.  There is nothing he can learn from Gaza and its Hamas rulers that can possibly have any legitimate application in Australia.  His visit and his comments undermine Australia’s efforts to build a peaceful, inclusive and democratic multicultural society.”

I hope no one  believes that this will be left at that no matter what the official Jewish leadership does. This is an election year. It is the duty of  those who care about Australia to vote against the ALP.  Bob Carr has seen to that.

At least there are still some Australian politicians who care enough about Australia they can be  relied on to see how important this issue is for Australians.  

I left this comment.

This is a weak response from the official Australian Jewish leadership given the snide but unmistakable references by the Mufti of Australia to the genocidal antisemitism that has been part of Hamas policy since they inherited it from the Nazis via the Muslim Brotherhood.

Australia has a serious problem and it is a problem that threatens all Australians and not just Jews. Some of us are trying to make this point to Australians who are not Jews. It would help if the Jewish communal leadership seriously took on the issue of how far genocidal antisemitism has penetrated the Australian  community.

This Mufti was supposed to be a moderate. What is the definition of a moderate? Someone who believes Jews are an insult to humanity and God because they rejected the Prophet and should be murdered everywhere but don't start in Australia. Or if you do be careful about it.?

The community leadership should tackle head on the issue of crazy violent religious extremism in any form but we all know we are not talking about the Presbyterians. They have a responsibility to the Jewish community but they also have a responsibility to all Australians. I would argue a larger responsibility.

hat tip Shirlee